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Dawn of Skynet?

Postby BillW on Tue 04 Oct 2016 17:25

http://www.zdnet.com/article/azure-is-b ... microsoft/

They say that a 20 core CPU is enough for true AI; we now have 20 core computers, but don't have true AI just yet. Although, since the Turing test has finally been passed we are getting close.
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby Cralis on Tue 04 Oct 2016 18:47

Interesting propaganda by Microsoft, but it's far harder than what they are claiming. In fact, there is a fair amount of credible evidence that a traditional computer core is simply incapable of true AI performance because it can't match the parallel bandwidth of a system like the human brain. That's why I've been watching for more information on the memristor based computer system and AI project that HP and the DOD have been working on.

Here is a fairly recent article about what they are doing.

http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2015/015416/ar ... rtant-step
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby BillW on Tue 04 Oct 2016 20:34

Cralis wrote:Interesting propaganda by Microsoft, but it's far harder than what they are claiming. In fact, there is a fair amount of credible evidence that a traditional computer core is simply incapable of true AI performance because it can't match the parallel bandwidth of a system like the human brain. That's why I've been watching for more information on the memristor based computer system and AI project that HP and the DOD have been working on.

Here is a fairly recent article about what they are doing.

http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2015/015416/ar ... rtant-step


Microsoft's idea is to spread compute-intensive workloads across many computers. This does reduce computation time for complex tasks, but it isn't really AI. The folk in the article that you linked are working on true AI. I do expect that we will see true AI in our lifetimes, the real question is how do we handle it? Or, "Cylons, why debugging matters.", actually seen on a MS add for their Visual Studio compiler: http://www.primordia.com/blog/archives/ ... tters.html
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby Cralis on Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:36

BillW wrote:Microsoft's idea is to spread compute-intensive workloads across many computers. This does reduce computation time for complex tasks, but it isn't really AI.


Ah, I was reading it that they were claiming to be developing AI to handling that task. As you say it's an efficient intelligent design, but not a true AI. I basically felt the article was intended as a bit of hyperbole :)

The folk in the article that you linked are working on true AI. I do expect that we will see true AI in our lifetimes, the real question is how do we handle it? Or, "Cylons, why debugging is matters.", actually seen on a MS add for their Visual Studio compiler: http://www.primordia.com/blog/archives/ ... tters.html


LOL

I use VS all the time and I never saw that. That's pretty funny. But I agree, debugging is pretty danged important!

And BILL! It's been a long while... how've you been doing?
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby BillW on Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:42

Cralis wrote:
BillW wrote:Microsoft's idea is to spread compute-intensive workloads across many computers. This does reduce computation time for complex tasks, but it isn't really AI.


Ah, I was reading it that they were claiming to be developing AI to handling that task. As you say it's an efficient intelligent design, but not a true AI. I basically felt the article was intended as a bit of hyperbole :)

The folk in the article that you linked are working on true AI. I do expect that we will see true AI in our lifetimes, the real question is how do we handle it? Or, "Cylons, why debugging is matters.", actually seen on a MS add for their Visual Studio compiler: http://www.primordia.com/blog/archives/ ... tters.html


LOL

I use VS all the time and I never saw that. That's pretty funny. But I agree, debugging is pretty danged important!

And BILL! It's been a long while... how've you been doing?



Yes, they are claiming AI, it is mostly Cortana, their personal assistant and a few other things to coordinate tasks. Useful stuff, but not really AI. And, I agree with you, a weeee bit of hyperbole"

I have been crazy busy, trying to catch up on stuff.
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby BillW on Thu 06 Oct 2016 17:35

Another "assistant" type program:
Samsung has agreed to acquire Viv, an AI and assistant system co-founded by Dag Kittlaus, Adam Cheyer and Chris Brigham — who created Siri, which was acquired by Apple in 2010. https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/05/samsung-acquires-viv-a-next-gen-ai-assistant-built-by-creators-of-apples-siri/

Of course, what folk really want to see in an AI is the ability to beat humans in a game of Doom ;) :)
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/doom/258927/new-ai-is-capable-of-beating-humans-at-doom
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby BillW on Fri 07 Oct 2016 18:51

Some more articles on AI:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/news/computers_math/artificial_intelligence/

There have been a number of receptionist type androids built in Asia. I kinda like Nadine:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2016/01/15/meet-nadine-singapores-new-android-receptionist/#1aa16a3a2360

Although some folk worry about androids rebelling others have concerns about how AI will displace blue-collar workers: https://www.wired.com/2015/01/ai-arrived-really-worries-worlds-brightest-minds/
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby Cralis on Sat 08 Oct 2016 03:16

Did you see they have now created viable 1 nm transistors? Yikes.
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby BillW on Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:30

Cralis wrote:Did you see they have now created viable 1 nm transistors? Yikes.


Yes, I read an article on it here https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/07/res ... istor-gate
Not ready for commercial sale yet, but still way smaller that thought possible just a few years ago.
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Re: Dawn of Skynet?

Postby BillW on Tue 18 Oct 2016 02:36

Speaking of bugs in the software:

List of software bugs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_bugs

Remember rule 6 of The 10 commandments for C programmers, eloquently written in old English by Harry Spencer:

· "If a function be advertised to return an error code in the event of difficulties, thou shalt check for that code, yea, even though the checks triple the size of thy code and produce aches in thy typing fingers, for if thou thinkest 'it cannot happen to me', the gods shall surely punish thee for thy arrogance."
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