Graded Diplomats Need Some Love

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Graded Diplomats Need Some Love

Postby SCC on Sat 09 Feb 2019 04:00

So I was doing some Leader stuff and I noticed something interesting: LG+0 Graded Diplomats without special abilities are useless as they don't modify the other race's RC (Unless they reduce it to 0, which I find highly doubtful!)

So does anyone have any suggestions for how things should be changed?
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Re: Graded Diplomats Need Some Love

Postby Lomn on Sat 09 Feb 2019 19:49

You do get the leader authority (own ship and escorts), which isn't nothing. They're basically a pocket admiral for purposes of short-circuiting the communications loop.
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Re: Graded Diplomats Need Some Love

Postby SCC on Sat 09 Feb 2019 22:05

Lomn wrote:You do get the leader authority (own ship and escorts), which isn't nothing. They're basically a pocket admiral for purposes of short-circuiting the communications loop.

Pretty sure that Generals and Governors can do this as well.
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Re: Graded Diplomats Need Some Love

Postby Cralis on Sun 10 Feb 2019 18:20

SCC wrote:
Lomn wrote:You do get the leader authority (own ship and escorts), which isn't nothing. They're basically a pocket admiral for purposes of short-circuiting the communications loop.

Pretty sure that Generals and Governors can do this as well.


So? It's a basic function of graded leaders.

But maybe we could have a -1 RC for Diplomat LG+0
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Re: Graded Diplomats Need Some Love

Postby SCC on Mon 11 Feb 2019 03:49

Cralis wrote:
SCC wrote:
Lomn wrote:You do get the leader authority (own ship and escorts), which isn't nothing. They're basically a pocket admiral for purposes of short-circuiting the communications loop.

Pretty sure that Generals and Governors can do this as well.


So? It's a basic function of graded leaders.

I think that makes it even more important to change things then

Cralis wrote:But maybe we could have a -1 RC for Diplomat LG+0

At a minimum.
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Re: Graded Diplomats Need Some Love

Postby Lomn on Mon 11 Feb 2019 12:47

SCC wrote:
Lomn wrote:You do get the leader authority (own ship and escorts), which isn't nothing. They're basically a pocket admiral for purposes of short-circuiting the communications loop.

Pretty sure that Generals and Governors can do this as well.
Not intrinsically at LG+0. Governors and Generals only get "forces on the same planet", not a space-based fleet.

That said, I agree with the above that any LG+0 diplomat should be superior to no diplomat at all, so some bonus better than -0 RC seems appropriate. The Soother diplomat is two full grades better than a generic diplomat; none of the other leader types have that much gap from default to their "improved default" specialization. I'd look at adjusting not just the LG+0 default bonus but that whole line.
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