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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby Tesuji on Wed 08 Nov 2017 08:22

Ok, so I guess it's only needed for campaign gaming...

I want to use UltraSF for that part, but since it's so complex, I wanted to get used to tactical play first and for that reason try to play some scenarios from SF3 first. But I know that it's a beast of its own. ;-)
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby Cralis on Wed 08 Nov 2017 11:17

Tesuji wrote:Ok, so I guess it's only needed for campaign gaming...


Not necessarily campaigns. The Stars At War supplement presumes that all battles start at the System Level, for example. As do ISW-4 and Insurrection. Crusade is one of the exceptions...

And in any case, it was only ever used in Classic Starfire (3rd edition). I was trying to point out that it is mostly unused even then. I think I used it once or twice, realized how useless that scale was, and boxed the map permanently.

I want to use UltraSF for that part, but since it's so complex, I wanted to get used to tactical play first and for that reason try to play some scenarios from SF3 first. But I know that it's a beast of its own. ;-)


Starfire III or 3rd Edition? Different products..
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby Tesuji on Wed 08 Nov 2017 11:32

Ah ok, got it!

I meant 3rd Edition Starfire...

Anyway, thank you! :-)
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby aramis on Tue 14 Nov 2017 11:49

Tesuji wrote:Thank you guys!

The SFB map though seems to fit nicely for the tactical part afterall...

Anything special with the interception maps? Never seen one, hence no idea of it...

The SFB maps of the era were in fact the same.

I'd suggest generally ignoring the interception scale/turns, unless there's planet/moon or colony evacuation.
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby Cralis on Tue 14 Nov 2017 14:48

The SFB maps they sell now are still the same...
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby aramis on Wed 22 Nov 2017 14:52

Cralis wrote:The SFB maps they sell now are still the same...

Except they now also offer them in 32mm as well as 16mm hexes.
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby Cralis on Wed 22 Nov 2017 15:23

aramis wrote:
Cralis wrote:The SFB maps they sell now are still the same...

Except they now also offer them in 32mm as well as 16mm hexes.


For miniatures? I can't imagine this is for counters...
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby VX-134 on Wed 22 Nov 2017 18:43

Star Fleet Battles has 1/2 inch counters (with digital artwork) for the standard map and deluxe 1 inch counters (with painted artwork against a black background) for use with the larger map (which is also used for miniatures). The 1 inch counters are "the next best thing" if you can't afford the miniatures.

I made my own "deluxe" counters for Starfire by enlarging the line art from the old painting guide (included with the original miniatures line) and coloring the ships with markers using whatever "team colors" I picked for each empire. Come to think of it, Steve Jackson Games used to sell counters for Car Wars that were just line art that you were supposed to color in yourself (allowed for a great deal of customization). Might be interesting to have something like this available for download for Starfire.
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby aramis on Thu 23 Nov 2017 07:23

Cralis wrote:
aramis wrote:
Cralis wrote:The SFB maps they sell now are still the same...

Except they now also offer them in 32mm as well as 16mm hexes.


For miniatures? I can't imagine this is for counters...

For 1" counters, and it's a multi-sheet map.

But it's also great for 1/2" counters if you are running fleets.

It is also used for minis in the current edition. Prior editions had mapless minis rules.
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Re: Classic SF map for scenarios

Postby coldsteel on Sat 25 Nov 2017 14:15

I was gonna run a SFB demo one year using 8" hexes and Revell Star Trek models for the Fed CA and Klingon D7 using the Cadet rules... Our guy in charge of all gaming balked at the area needed for the map (28 feet by 20 feet)...
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