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Re: So... who'd like to see Starfire I, II, and III in pdf?

PostPosted: Fri 08 Dec 2017 21:33
by aramis
VoidStalker_WoE wrote:
aramis wrote:Java works across platforms, but is clunky much of the time.
I wonder if it would be workable for things like shipyards and sysgen applications? Not something needed for when the game is going on, but for when your wanting to do the books. I just don't know about spreadsheets, and so find them to intimidating to even attempt to learn, lol.

I'm so glad to see the game being sold actively once again! Now I just need to get all of my buddies to go out and buy it!!!

Yes, it would. The hard part is picking the right cross-platform display library.

Pick the wrong one, and it's unusable on any... :cry:

Seriously, it's pretty well cross-platform... provided you grab the correct libraries.

You're going to want to target 4-6 environments.
windows X
MacOS X
Linux
Chrome
iOS
Android

Another option, albeit pretty odd, is to use an interpreted environment.
Dos 6.22 software runs fine in DosBox
z-Code can be run on z-machines - and those are virtual machines which are available for the 25 top OS's... and more. There's even one for C64, Blackberry, PalmOS, and CP/M.

Re: So... who'd like to see Starfire I, II, and III in pdf?

PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2018 11:14
by Sekundar
aramis wrote:
VoidStalker_WoE wrote:
aramis wrote:Java works across platforms, but is clunky much of the time.
I wonder if it would be workable for things like shipyards and sysgen applications? Not something needed for when the game is going on, but for when your wanting to do the books. I just don't know about spreadsheets, and so find them to intimidating to even attempt to learn, lol.

I'm so glad to see the game being sold actively once again! Now I just need to get all of my buddies to go out and buy it!!!

Yes, it would. The hard part is picking the right cross-platform display library.

Pick the wrong one, and it's unusable on any... :cry:

Seriously, it's pretty well cross-platform... provided you grab the correct libraries.

You're going to want to target 4-6 environments.
windows X
MacOS X
Linux
Chrome
iOS
Android

Another option, albeit pretty odd, is to use an interpreted environment.
Dos 6.22 software runs fine in DosBox
z-Code can be run on z-machines - and those are virtual machines which are available for the 25 top OS's... and more. There's even one for C64, Blackberry, PalmOS, and CP/M.


CP/M, huh? I've still got my Osborne-1 stashed away somewhere. How many 5 1/4 in floppies does it take?

I was kinda sorta thinking of making a browser based ship design app for Starfire I&II.

Re: So... who'd like to see Starfire I, II, and III in pdf?

PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov 2018 22:16
by aramis
Chrome can be removed from the potential target list, since it now also runs android apps.

As for CP/M, I have a working Kaypro II back in Anchorage.... Rugged. I'd love to see what Mr. Kay would do with modern tech and materials...

Re: So... who'd like to see Starfire I, II, and III in pdf?

PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2020 01:57
by aramis
Oh, and the Z-machine on CP/M? it fit on one side of a kaypro format floppy, with the program on the story (a Z-code program, really) on the other side.

Re: So... who'd like to see Starfire I, II, and III in pdf?

PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar 2020 10:16
by brasidas19004
I think a pdf of the rules would be valuable to share with others we are trying to intro to the game.

At the end of the day, it isn't competing with more modern editions. You want what you want - it's just a hobby.

Re: So... who'd like to see Starfire I, II, and III in pdf?

PostPosted: Mon 30 Mar 2020 08:57
by Sekundar
Well then, Good News!
It's been available on Wargame Vault for about a year(ish?)

https://www.wargamevault.com/browse/pub ... ign-Studio

Re: So... who'd like to see Starfire I, II, and III in pdf?

PostPosted: Mon 30 Mar 2020 14:38
by Cralis
Thank you Sekundar, you beat me to it this time! :) This last week has pretty much had be all tied-up with my employment getting everyone able to work from home (including myself).

If you're looking for teaching new players, or just looking for a simple set of rules to play some quick scenarios, you should check out the Quick Start Rules. They are based on the newer rulesets but have the simplicity of the earliest versions of Starfire.

They are also available on Wargame Vault as a free download! https://www.wargamevault.com/product/21 ... tart-Rules

We also have a version of the QSR for playing with tabletop miniatures, also a free download: https://www.wargamevault.com/product/21 ... Miniatures